| 16 Mar 2008 1:34 PM |
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Mary
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In my opinion it is a parents resonsibilty to love, educate, nurture and protect each and every child into aduldhood. That does not mean exposing them to the world at large before they are ready just because it there.
It is a well known fact that children can and do make choices for themselves from a very early age - and that includes boys playing with cars/guns or girls dolls.
If Iains views are right then would it not follow that we would have less wars if boys weren't allowed to play with guns, less violence against women if there were equal rights for both sexes. This IS a mans world and men know it and use it to their advantage
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| 16 Mar 2008 11:51 AM |
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Mandy
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well i can sort of see where your coming from on this lain, if you think about how you are then yes, it probally does send the wrong message, but I loved playing with my dolls when i was a young girl, and did not make me want to rush and have kids. I had my kids cause i felt ready too with my husband, but yes i suppose if you think in the long run of it all, then i think it can incourage (some girls) to want kids far too young.
but as for our previous debate, i'm afraid i stick to my ground on that one soz..
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| 15 Mar 2008 10:30 PM |
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Penny
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Join Date: 28 Feb 2008
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What would you know about parenting. In your profile you don't have kids. My children can think and say with there own minds and do with what they want with in reason. I don't lock my children away from no-one or anything.
we will have diagree on this as well.
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| 15 Mar 2008 8:50 PM |
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Iain
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Join Date: 21 May 2005
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well, keeping them locked away from the rest of the world would ensure that they never are ready for anything like that!
The purpose of parenting is to ensure that children turn into adults who can deal with the real world - forcing your discrimination onto the rest of humanity is not the way to do that - it is not so long ago that people who dated outside their "race" or religion were treated very badly, but society has grown up to a large extent - would you insist that people remain segregated? Discrimination is discrimination regardless of your reasons for doing so!
As a side issue - I personally think that teen pregnanies would happen less if people didn't give girl children, dolls and prams at every opportunity - thus propagating the myth that having children is every girls dream! What sort of message are you trying to force on them when you give them toy babies?
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| 14 Mar 2008 2:33 PM |
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Penny
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Join Date: 28 Feb 2008
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Again well said ladies. Iain we are mums that are looking out for our kids. All we want is kids to be kids. No to be parents before there time or do somthing before there ready to.
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| 13 Mar 2008 7:10 PM |
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Mandy
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and also thank you too pen, you know i'm not trying to offend people , and if i do then i apologise to each and every one of you, but if you cant speak your mind, then why have a voice box!!!!!
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| 13 Mar 2008 7:07 PM |
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Mandy
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mary thank you so much for your support on this, and your quite right, i dont say hi im mandy and im straight!! i just say i'm mandy find me as you find me. and yes also i agree with you that there is just too much sex on t.v what ever you are straight or gay, it's just not right, thats probally another reason for teen pregnacies!!!! they make it look so inviting that every one wants to act older than they are to feel and look cool to there peers, but they are the ones left holding the baby.......
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| 13 Mar 2008 5:21 PM |
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Penny
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Join Date: 28 Feb 2008
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Well said ladies,I have no problem with guy or stright people. Not bothered at all. I think kids should be kids. The kids now day's are seening sex of any kind a pressure every where at it's not fair to them.
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| 13 Mar 2008 8:25 AM |
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Mary
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Join Date: 10 Feb 2008
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I agree with Mandy and Penny here. Seeing relationships on the tv isn't the problem. In my opinion the problem is the explicit sex gay or straight. Why is it that people who prefer their own sex have to tell you their sexual orientation in the same breath as telling you their name - almost to challenge you before you find out anything else about them. I don't know many straight people who have found the need to tell me they are!
I also notice only one post of a rather agressive nature using the words bigotry, hatred, fundementalist christians. I am not religious or a fundementalist, bigot or hate anyone. I also do not need to defend my position by being agressive
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| 13 Mar 2008 7:17 AM |
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Mandy
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well i'm afraid then lain, we will have to agree to disadgree then...............but I would like to see less of the same sex on tv,
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| 12 Mar 2008 11:10 PM |
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Iain
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Join Date: 21 May 2005
Location: Hampshire, UK England
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gah, I hate talking to fundementalist christians like you!
Some of my ancesters were greek - and they were a lot more accepting of same sex relationships than the primitive tribal god who has screwed up healthy sexual relatitionships for the last 2000 years! - not all of my ancesters would be turning in their graves, I am sure some of them would be cheering the fact that the world has moved on from bigoty and hatred (at least in some parts of the world!)
I suspect that your children (if they are gay or Bi) would find it very hard to open up to you because you have a very closed mind - I find it deeply offensive that you think that the small amount of gay expression on tv is unacceptable - we are not living in the victorian age now! Children learn to accept things primarily through how their parents accept them - if you show hatred and bigoty, then the next generation will show hatred and bigoty as well - break the cycle, open your heart to the different types of love that can be expressed, be full of joy that people, regardless of their gender or sexuality, can find someone to love and have pleasure with, accept that other people have just as much right to have their feelings shown as you do!
Gay or straight have just as much right to have their expressions of love and relationships shown - The more we see others having different lives, the more we can accept and love them for their differences - thus bringing an end to bigotry and hatred for ever!
I would love to see more same sex relationships on the TV - I don't fear or hate people for such silly reasons as who they are sleeping with!
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| 12 Mar 2008 8:49 PM |
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Mandy
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thank you penn atleast someone can see were i'm coming from. x
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